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Wind and solar combined can not produce the energy we are now getting from oil so what do we do next-?

Attached is an energy gathering machine than could produce all the energy we will ever need. But will it work--?

I think the answer is going to be a mixture of sources - both central (like wind farms or the solar tower in Spain) and distributed (like a solar hot water heater and photovoltaic panels on your roof at home).

The diagram looks like a version of geothermal and geothermal works. Geothermal plants are already in operation in lots of places.

Right now, the Philippines get 25% of all their energy from geothermal plants.

JakeR

JakeR is right the design shown is geothermal and it is a proven design. The only difference is the ability to get the fluid to the base before it travels upwards to your propeller mechanism.

A Dual or parallel well system would be the most beneficial in your system, drill two holes side by side then force high pressure to break the walls open to free the liquid going down then across to the shaft going up. Lots of well casing looks expensive.

Nflight

Looked at your idea. It's very creative. But it's all about money. Coal will produce electricity at 5¢ a KW-Hr. It's unlikely your invention can.

What about salt corrosion? those pipes would be eaten away and less efficient very fast.

I think wind power, solar power, water power together and independently have the ability to replace oil. Few of the countries have started using water as a fuel in cars.

I'm putting my money on geothermal and solar. To me they have the most reliable output.

Jcrashh

Alternative energy will only replace oil when we accept it as a reality and people think of it as the norm not the exception. Education is the way to start on this. In Maine Efficiency is making inroads into teaching tomorrows decision makers about alternative energy today. This is one way - a fun rap contest with a serious message:

IF solar, wind and other forms of energy can not replace oil - then we need to STOP USING SO MUCH. It takes a little re-thinking and develop new ways of doing old thing.

For instance - on MyBackAchers.com farming website - they turned old refrigerators into solar food dehydrators, they made an ICE Room that freezes over winter (northern climate) and stays frozen all summer - till winter freezes it again. They mainly ride bikes, put up most of their food - including food for animals (chickens, rabbits, goats & horses). They planted short grasses so they don't have to mow (talk about saving time). Put in skylights for daytime light and naturally exhaust hot air. . they even designed a solar furnace system that takes heat from a roof attic area. And add that to all the other ways we're told to conserve - LEDs in stead of regular bulbs, clothes line instead of dryer, wash dishes by hand instead of machine . . Power can be cut down to a minimal of $25/month.

blueMarina

(Oct 15 2009 08:48 AM)Guest Wrote:  I think wind power, solar power, water power together and independently have the ability to replace oil. Few of the countries have started using water as a fuel in cars.

It's nice to know that a lot of people have been pushing efforts to make planet earth a better place. With biofuels, and all other alternative resources for energy, we might be able to curb the growing problem that is global warming and at the same time preserve the ecosystems of the world. The Earth's natural forces such as wind, hydro and solar power are limitless and effective ways to gain energy. So unless the winds stop blowing, the seas stop roaring or the sun dies out, there'll always be a place to go for energy. Kudos mother earth! Here's where we can find out more about saving the world and our wallets: http://www.empire-solar.com.

(Oct 15 2009 08:46 AM)Guest Wrote:  Wind and solar combined can not produce the energy we are now getting from oil so what do we do next-?

Attached is an energy gathering machine than could produce all the energy we will ever need. But will it work--?

“It’s amazing what people can do to make the world a better place. Though, I have to say, this wouldn’t have had happened if we were more cautious about our environment (debatable as it may be), it’s still nice to know that alternative sources of fuel are being more of a trend.”

We need to face it, electric is not going to push semis through the rocky mountains. We have to except natural gas for now anyway.

It is a combination of Alternative Energy resources that can (mostly) replace Oil. We have to keep in mind NOT to drain our planet's natural resources which are INSIDE our planet,and have their specific use/purpose. Everything is Energy, and each part plays a vital role in the big picture. (even though we are still too small to see it's function/meaning.

regarding to your drawing schematic: There are many "toys" out there. If you have a new idea, please PRODUCE TWO, test if for 2 years, and come back with the results.

Unfortunately the money system is the biggest set back for alternative/renewable energy. Most can't afford the switch over, so until we can get past the "haves and the have nots" nothing will change. I've heard it said many times "history repeats it's self", but truthfully it should read "idiots repeat history".

It is true that Governments are all talk and no action when it comes to alternative energy, and we as consumers always get the news of how much money was invested in alternative energy technology. Only to be shelved and deemed too expensive to install and maintain. Because oil still provides the best energy per barrel than what the sun can. We as consumers don't even think twice when purchasing a new car, where we could rather maintain the current car we have and spend the $30 000 on solar energy instead for your home. It boils down to the same thing, you will still have to pay off the loan, but the beauty is you are getting a return on your investment.

As to you pics, you have its a fantastic idea, here in Singapore they are looking at geothermal energy to provide the countries power needs,which is all currently imported.