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Hello. I want to introduce a device capable of generating unlimited energy, cleaner and safer. It operates under the principle of Arquimedes push for flotation. Only with air and water, without consumption of either. A detailed description, along with drawings and an animation may see in attached.

http://motiveandpneumaticenergyproducer.blogspot.com/

I am open to the general public, so that it can be used and modified freely, since it declared un-patentable. Therefore, I need a good spread of it to prevent anyone from taking him on an exclusive basis.

Thank you very much and I hope here your comments,

Froilan Salaya

Ablos Englas? Por-Favor?

In your diagram it seems that everything is in Espagnol (spanish).

Please tell me what the words to the left and to right are about.

And what does "peso" have to do anything with your diagram?

Isn't that mexican currency?

Or am I Trippin?

E2E

Interesting Hydraulic design:

Is weight. See http://motiveandpneumaticenergyproducer.blogspot.com/

Bye.

energiasinfin

Looks like a perpetual motion machine. Sorry those don't work. At least no on has EVER produced a working one and yours looks less promising than most. The simple fallacy of your system is you assume that you have air deep under water. How did you get it there?

bertus

The water will just come in and rise to an equal height on the other side. You can't claim that gravity will pull down on one side but ignore that it will also do the same on the other. No "free" ride. Sorry.

solarcook

The air enters the room that is waterproof to the passage of water from the tank. When it opens, creates a vacuum that is filled by air at ambient pressure.

It works like the "diving bells." On the left side, the containers are inverted and filled with air.

See the next animation:


energiasinfin

A vacuum won't automatically occur - something would have to force the paddles to continual to rotate to create the vacuum. Your device would turn if you injected compressed air, but it's not going to be an energy generator.

As one of the other posters said, it falls into the category of perpetual motion machines and those defy the know laws of physics.

If you're unconvinced, try making a model.

And please don't let me discourage you from continuing to come up with new ideas. I just don't happen to agree with this one.

JakeR

I think the op is looking at the Bernoulli(hope I spelled that right) effect to draw in the air. A moving fluid creating a partial vacuum. The air pressure at the surface is only about 14.7 psi. You don't have to go very far underwater to exceed that pressure, even if the operating principle was 100% efficient(it's not even close). Unfortunately, as JakeR said, without an external power source, it can't work.

Capturing energy from wave motion, on the other hand, is possible.

solarcook

I think it is great, but how much it will be cost? Is it practical?

dfdsolar

hi my name is Tracy.with all of the people looking for ways to get electricity to every one.There might be a different way to go about this.Like millions of people i live in a double wide trailer.If It is so hard to get enough energy to to run every home has anyone thought about creating enough electricity for 1 home.Well i have i have way using compressed air to turn a generator. Which it not only create the energy to run a single trailer it also creates the air that it needs to run wit no break in energy output. If there is anyone out there that might be interested in learning more contact me at ycartlambert [AT] yahoo.com I am also looking for a way to fund this project Within 1 year i will have a model installed and running.Then i will set about making it run a small to moderate house.

thanks TRACY

These are always fascinating.

I took a keen interest in alternative energy when I was eight years old. That was 27 years ago. The advancements made since then, are phenomenal. Perpetual energy(motion) does exist. It's called the sun. If the sun stopped working... so would we... so I will put faith in the belief that the sun is proof of perpetual motion, in the event that I am proven wrong, no one will be around to remind me.

There are so many working alternatives to fossil fuels, all it takes is a proactive individual, and they will gain electric independence.

I too, had an idea. And no one to back me. So, I ventured to make a small fortune, so that I could promote it eventually. I encourage everyone to do the same. Energy should be free!

gregoryenergy

gregoryenergy:

You're already proven wrong. It's a scientific certainty that the Sun goes KAPUT! in about 5 billion years or so (and takes the Earth with it), to eventually become a small dead white dwarf.

It's running on fuel only until it runs out. It just has a lot of it.

As I posted elsewhere, on the 2nd law of Thermodynamics:

"Plenty of nonsense here, ... or what ... ?

Check out thoroughly the 2nd law of thermodynamics, on wiki, or wherever, via Google, to find out why a perpetual motion machine is not possible not just because that pesky friction is tricky to do away with, and those annoying eddy currents, get in the way, but because such a device would contravene the said 2nd law; and so is absolutely impossible under any circumstances.

Stop straining your brain trying to figure out how to make a perpetual motion machine - you can not - it's rigorously scientifically impossible - so you'll take forever; better if you spend a less[er] amount of time learning/studying physics that will convince you of this.

Dennis Revell
Time Saver"

Although a perpetual motion machine is still virtually unreachable, it's nice to know that people are still thinking of more ways to make one for the purpose of free energy. However, I post a question, why bother making one when there's already a source of energy that's free and seemingly perpetuate? Now the sun may die out in the next, say, one hundred billion years, but at this point in time, it's the only source of energy where we don't bother any ecosystem and tackle the problem of global warming. For more information, we can check out empire-solar . com.

I like it, shows someone is thinking and the key is no doubt stretching the imagination. I posted some of my free energy schematics on my website if anyone is curious it's http://batteryprojects.yolasite.com/